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Against Deathism
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Against Deathism

A Conversation with James Hughes

James and Matteo discuss deathism — the idea that death is good, inevitable, and something we should embrace. We make the technoprogressive case for treating aging as a solvable, technoscientific problem rather than a metaphysical inevitability. The conversation covers Bryan Johnson and the billionaire life-extension backlash, the concept of health span vs. lifespan, the “compression of morbidity,” ageism in bioethics (Daniel Callahan’s Setting Limits), the clinical trial regime vs. right-to-try/biohacking, gerontocracy, the old-age dependency ratio, and how to build a political coalition around longevity.

Topics Discussed

  • Deathism and preference falsification around death anxiety

  • Bryan Johnson and the “billionaire quest for immortality”

  • Social murder and The Whitehall studies

  • Longevity Escape Velocity

  • James Steinhoff’s argument on “natural oppression” vs. social oppression on the left

  • QALYs (quality-adjusted life years) and the economic case for longevity research

  • Intergenerational equity and the uncompensated care labor (mostly done by women) created by an aging population

  • Building a political coalition for a “longevity new deal”

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